Sunday, August 16, 2009

Health Care IV

continued from Health Care III, below

If I don't make better progress on this, I'm going to have to ask my teacher friends to help me with the roman numerals, lol!

Next statement:
Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.

My Response: The commissioner will establish plan standards, along with other duties including establishing and operating the health insurance exchange. I think the second one is more important than the first, but.... If your employer offers you a choice, there will be different insurance companies offering plans at three different levels as was stated before, essential, enhanced and premium. If you have Medicare now, you do not have a choice now. This accusation is misleading.

Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.

My response: THERE IS NO MENTION OF ILLEGAL ALIENS AT ALL! This statement is a lie.

From FactCheck.org:

False: Illegal Immigrants Will Be Covered

One Republican congressman issued a press release claiming that "5,600,000 Illegal Aliens May Be Covered Under Obamacare," and we’ve been peppered with queries about similar claims. They’re not true. In fact, the House bill (the only bill to be formally introduced in its entirety) specifically says that no federal money would be spent on giving illegal immigrants health coverage:

H.R. 3200: Sec 246 — NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS

Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.

Also, under current law, those in the country illegally don’t qualify for federal health programs. Of interest: About half of illegal immigrants have health insurance now, according to the nonpartisan Pew Hispanic Center, which says those who lack insurance do so principally because their employers don’t offer it.

"Misleading GOP Health Care Claims" July 23

– by Brooks Jackson, Viveca Novak, Lori Robertson and Jess Henig


Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Health card.

My response: This section is a listing of goals for financial and administrative transactions. The real change noted here about health plan beneficiary ID cards is that they may be machine readable for accuracy. It is not a National ID Health card; if you have Medicare, you will have a Medicare card; if you have Blue Cross/Blue Shield, you will have a BC/BS card; if you have Aetna, you will have an Aetna card. This statement is incorrect and misses the point of the paragraph.

Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.

My response: This section allows for electronic funds transfers so that the entire billing process can be automated. In other words, when your health care provider submits an electronic bill, they can now be paid electronically. This has nothing to do with health care consumers. This statement is incorrect.

Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (read: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)

My response: OMG, while researching this question I ran across this entire list of "highlights" on this paper posted by Liberty Counsel. It is adapted from this blog post from Peter Fleckenstein. And is also posted on FreeRepublic.com.

Here is the beginning of what is posted on FreeRepublic:

Health Care Bill Summary From Peter Fleckenstein’s Twitter Account: http://twitter.com/fleckman
Peter Fleckenstein’s Twitter Account ^ | July 24, 2009 | Peter Fleckenstein

Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 12:45:47 PM by COUNTrecount

CONGRESSMAN____________________________________

If you aren’t going to read the entire HealthCare bill, here is a summary:

PG 22 MANDATES the Government will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!

PG 24 Line 116 Government effectively sets prices for ALL private health plans.

PG 30 Line 123 THERE WILL BE A Government COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.

PG 37 Line 132 The Government will be reviewing grievances about themselves and will decide on appeals for rejected claims.

PG 29 Line 4-16 YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!! Additionally you can reference PG 15 Line 19-25.

PG 42 The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HealthCare Benefits for you. You have no choice!

PG 50 Line 152 HealthCare will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise.

PG 58 Government will have real-time access to individuals’ finances & a National ID HealthCare Card will be issued!

PG 59 Line 21-24 Government will have direct access to your banks accounts for electronic funds transfer!


I think I need to take a little break and compose myself. But before I do I want to remind you of how I started this series of postings:

Wayne Lauten is a good friend of mine and if he says he has read the first 500 pages of the “health bill” then he has.

Guess Wayne Lauten isn't such a good or honest friend of Dad-in-law. Sad, just sad.

1 comment:

  1. Liberty Counsel is affiliated with the infamous Liberty University where as of late the Young Democrats party has been forcefully disbanded and apparently the constitution is something to be vilified. What a bunch of scumbags and liars.

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